Its funny how people perceive jeans. Are they really that comfortable? Once in a while I do like wearing a pair but they just sit at a funny spot on the body. I know the jeans from 80's are so outdated and hideous now however they were much more flattering because they didn't cut off, they went to your natural waist. When I measure people I measure their "waist" where they wear their pants which I like to call the generational waist. Then I measure the natural waist which is infact the natural waist where people wore their pants for centuries.